Nice Girls Don't Get the Corner Office

  • by Lois P. Frankel
  • Narrated by Lois P. Frankel
  • 8 hrs and 51 mins
  • Unabridged Audiobook

Publisher's Summary

The New York Times bestseller, which for 10 years has been a must-have for women in business, is now completely revised and updated. In this new edition, internationally recognized executive coach Lois P. Frankel reveals a distinctive set of behaviors-over 130 in all-that women learn in girlhood that ultimately sabotage them as adults. She teaches you how to eliminate these unconscious mistakes that could be holding you back and offers invaluable coaching tips that can easily be incorporated into your social and business skills. The results for hundreds of thousands of women have been career opportunities they never thought possible - at every stage of their career, from entry-level to the corner office! Stop making "nice girl" errors that can become career pitfalls, such as:

Mistake #13: Avoiding office politics.
If you don't play the game, you can't possibly win.
Mistake #21: Multi-tasking.
Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it.
Mistake #54: Failure to negotiate.
Don't equate negotiation with confrontation.
Mistake #70: Inappropriate use of social media.
Once it's out there, it's hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Mistake #82: Asking permission. Children, not adults, ask for approval. Be direct, be confident.

PLEASE NOTE: When you purchase this title, the accompanying referenc4e material will be available in your My Library section along with the audio.


What the Critics Say

"This audiobook is filled with something you or one of your friends do every day…A simple, quick guide to presenting ourselves as the strong and bold women we are." (Gail Evans, author of She Wins, You Win and Play Like a Man, Win Like a Woman)
"Any woman intent on getting ahead in the corporate world should listen to this book. It's a fascinating crash course in image, influence, and communication, from an accomplished and insightful coach. Terrific stuff!" (Anne Fisher, senior writer, Fortune, and "Ask Annie" career columnist,


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A Dated White Feminist Manifesto

This book is probably most relevant to women 45+ who are middle-management or above, who are already in traditional corporate environments and at a certain level of income. The way it is written and the suggestions provided don't feel relevant to my life at all. In fact, it often made me feel bad about myself and my achievements.

The attitude to men and women is essentialising and dated. It is full of references to 'real women.' And it doesn't take into account the way in which younger men and most corporate environments today at least pay lip service to women's equality while allowing sexism to go underground or take on more insidious forms, making it far harder to address or work around.

The fundamental message of moving beyond what young women are taught about being 'a nice girl' is great. There are sprouts of really strong material around improving communication learned in childhood, definitely. But the structure of the book (a giant listicle) doesn't go in depth about any one, and there are better resources for this.

The text employs a critical tone throughout (here's everything you are doing wrong wrong wrong you silly girl *eyeroll*) that is not the most constructive investment of your time.

More dangerously, however, the negative, dismissive tone toward 'girls' reinforces negative stereotypes about women in the workplace that are hurtful to women as a whole, even if you've managed to separate yourself from the rest of the pack. Frankel says repeatedly that we have to accept the existence of double standards and that we need to work with them. Fine. But do we need to blithely treat 'girls' in the workplace as badly as men historically have? What about all the women who Frankel describes as being stuck in the 'women's ghetto' of secretaries and administrators? The attitude is 'are you a goddess who people will do things for, or are you the one who does things for the goddesses?' This is regressive and unconstructive. Some women might feel great about feeling like they have somehow escaped the fate of the helpers and then use those silly 'girls' to support their work without thinking twice about how destructive that structure is. I don't. Why not talk about how such women can move out of the cycle, rather than just advising avoiding getting sucked into it at any cost? And about things that senior women (and men!) can do to support women in those situations? What about people who have taken those kinds of jobs because there was rent to pay in the recession-era job market and they were promised opportunities for advancement that then never appeared, then found themselves stuck? How about providing a toolbox, rather than dismissing those people as failures doomed to serve others? Instead, Frankel gives the impression that she is self-obsessed and unethical, that she doesn't care if it's your head she uses as a step on her way to the top. It's all a game we need to play to win, after all.

Some of the advice assumes the reader is a relatively high earner and some is so painfully obvious that it's insulting. Frankel cites Virginia Woolf and A Room of One's Own as advice to get your own bank account and your own cushion of money so you don't have to stay in bad jobs, as well as a bunch of retirement planning suggestions. The advice is so obvious that it doesn't need to be written down. And it's great for those who earn a good income and are choosing between having a holiday or depositing savings, but what about those who are barely making rent every month, for whatever reason? This is a genuine opportunity for Frankel to help women who feel stuck to plan an escape or secure their futures. But top-earners only matter. Those silly girls in the women's ghetto can just take the hand they are dealt.

If you want a book packed with gems like 'get an expensive haircut' or 'hair should get shorter as you get older' or 'don't let your grey show' or 'don't get a visible tattoo' or 'buy this list of clothes and get it all tailored' then this is the book for you. Most of us have grown up having these ideas fed to us in the media or by our parents and don't need to buy a book to tell us this crap again. Frankel couches all these suggestions in terms of accepting and working with social expectations of women, saying that women are mistrusted if their appearance doesn't align with social expectations because it creates cognitive dissonance. We all know this. We can choose to comply or not. We can also consider ways of founding, building or changing our companies so that these expectations don't become prisons of gender stereotypes. What we don't need in 2017 is a corporate, literary version of Cosmopolitan magazine, telling women how to comply with men's expectations of women at work.
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- uccellina

Not for Glass-Ceiling Breakers

Would you recommend this book to a friend? Why or why not?

I'd recommend this to friends who were maybe in their 50s+ and working for stuffy, traditional companies in attempt to aid survival until retirement. The advice is so dated and some of it so infuriatingly so, that I tended to miss the good points whilst I fumed about how someone could get away with so publicly criticising the over-generalised woman for 9 hours. This book should be titled "how to act like a man" - I don't care whether she verbally dismisses this in the book. Whether consciously or not, Frankel has written a book with the majority of advice being to look at how men do it and copy. Very much the "fake it until you make it", rather than "fake it until you become it" philosophy.

What could Lois P. Frankel have done to make this a more enjoyable book for you?

Turned it around to not be the 100+ mistakes. If you want the title and structure of your book to be in the negative, your message is going to come across that way. Women make mistakes. Men don't.

Was Nice Girls Don't Get the Corner Office worth the listening time?

Of course. Just because I didn't agree with her messages, doesn't mean I shouldn't educate myself on the opinions of others. It makes my arguments better.

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- Sam

Book Details

  • Release Date: 18-02-2014
  • Publisher: Hachette Audio